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There are also some other reports in that thread that could be added to this list, perhaps. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:31, 1 April 2011 (MEST) | There are also some other reports in that thread that could be added to this list, perhaps. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 04:31, 1 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | Prometheus confirms that the Kingston cards work for her: [http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55506-recommended-sd-cards-for-pandora/page__view__findpost__p__945184]. But, to quote: "The problem is this: Kingston is a restickering brand - they do not manufacture their own chips, so you have no idea what you will get with any given card. | ||
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+ | That is to say, I'm afraid it's completely impossible to confirm for you whether Kingston's cards will work or not, because it changes per card." | ||
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+ | Please read the rest of the comment at the above link. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:39, 1 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | :So what's the threshold for a card manufacturer to get a yellow rating instead of a red one? If the cards work 50% of the time? 90%? 99%? Also, many people aren't testing the cards thoroughly, just copying a few files and saying "it works". -- [[User:Nyan|Nyan]] 12:36, 1 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | ::Well, the way I did it is yellow means that cards work well with one format but not with another. For example, my Patriot 32GB card has worked well with FAT32 over the past few months, but apparently it doesn't work with ext2/3/4. More information should be added in the "notes" column. So I guess "yellow" basically means that you won't have any problems if you choose the right file system. I don't know enough about this to know whether that's a workable definition or not. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:19, 3 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | :::Okay, I was just wondering, since you marked nearly all the "problem" cards yellow. Some of these need to be tested further to confirm that the problem really is limited to non-FAT32 filesystems. -- [[User:Nyan|Nyan]] 18:36, 3 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | ::::Then that's something that can be mentioned in the "notes", if they haven't been fully tested; these colours are only approximations... I was just getting the ball rolling, really. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:11, 4 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | == Change title to "SD compatibility list"? == | ||
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+ | There are also "SDXC" and "SD" cards so I would change the title to the most generic one: SD. [[User:T4b|T4b]] 13:45, 21 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | :I would prefer short titles for the articles as well. Longer titles can be faked by redirect stubs. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 15:14, 21 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | ::Ok, moved and intro edited. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 01:35, 22 April 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | == Hidden notes == | ||
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+ | Why are a lot of notes hidden behind javascript? There are some browsers which doesn't support it and I hate to click everything just to read a few sentences, clicking there takes at least as long as reading it, rather more. [[User:T4b|T4b]] 21:47, 7 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | :Well, the intention for this wiki is to make the pages look acceptable at a screen width of 800 pixels (as on the Pandora). This does mean that "notes" generally have to be kept pretty short, and hidden behind the HideableNotes template if they're not. Which browsers don't support javascript? I know Links2 doesn't, but that just means that you don't have to click on the note at all because it's all visible anyway. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:02, 8 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | :Also, I think most people will just either scroll through the list as a whole, or read the notes for a particular card that they're thinking about buying. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:08, 8 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | ::Thought the browser which doesn't support it might display nothing at all, but just checked with links2, looks nice. When looking at this table I would like to read all the notes, not just some, because I want to know which classes/brands work better/worse in general, not a specific card. Looking for a specific card would work if this list contained hundreds of entries for the most bought sd cards, which it doesn't at the moment.[[User:T4b|T4b]] 12:51, 8 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | :::Yes, that's the point of the colour system, so you can tell at a glance how well a card works, or a brand of cards. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:25, 9 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | == Add a column "Tested by"? == | ||
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+ | I think it might be a good idea to add a column who tested it, including a way to contact the tester if there are questions. | ||
+ | So you could a) see how many tested a card and b) ask the ones who wrote something like "needs further testing" and never changed it if it now works or not and so on.[[User:T4b|T4b]] 15:22, 8 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | :I think the current number of columns is already pushing it, to be honest - try viewing it at 800px wide. How about adding the source in the "Notes"? This is already done for some of them, where there's a link to the forum post where the test was made. You can also just add a name after some notes. i.e. "blahblahblah --T4b" (with link to your forum or wiki profile) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:23, 9 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
+ | ::Well, on second thought, I don't know, I guess we could try it out. I did remove the Brand Name column, so that opens up a spot maybe (I removed it because the card names already all start with the brand name, so it was a bit redundant). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:30, 9 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | ==NTFS== | ||
+ | I can confirm that the Pandora can read and write SD cards and external HDs formatted to an NTFS file system. Seems to work more stable than FAT32 for me, even, at least for Audacity.[http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/59301-audacity-1-3-12/page__view__findpost__p__949724] I have no idea how to do proper testing, though. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 05:58, 23 May 2011 (MEST) | ||
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+ | == How to contribute? == | ||
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+ | I just got a PNY 128GB SDXC class 10 UHS1 card and was wondering how I could test its compatibility and contribute to this. | ||
+ | [[User:Rahi374|Rahi374]] ([[User talk:Rahi374|talk]]) 10:10, 12 March 2014 (CET) |
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Other compatibility reports
mvickers03 has previously reported on July 25, 2010, that his 16GB Kingston class 4 card "works well"... that seems to be in direct contradiction to this list.
There are also some other reports in that thread that could be added to this list, perhaps. Esn 04:31, 1 April 2011 (MEST)
Prometheus confirms that the Kingston cards work for her: [1]. But, to quote: "The problem is this: Kingston is a restickering brand - they do not manufacture their own chips, so you have no idea what you will get with any given card.
That is to say, I'm afraid it's completely impossible to confirm for you whether Kingston's cards will work or not, because it changes per card."
Please read the rest of the comment at the above link. Esn 05:39, 1 April 2011 (MEST)
- So what's the threshold for a card manufacturer to get a yellow rating instead of a red one? If the cards work 50% of the time? 90%? 99%? Also, many people aren't testing the cards thoroughly, just copying a few files and saying "it works". -- Nyan 12:36, 1 April 2011 (MEST)
- Well, the way I did it is yellow means that cards work well with one format but not with another. For example, my Patriot 32GB card has worked well with FAT32 over the past few months, but apparently it doesn't work with ext2/3/4. More information should be added in the "notes" column. So I guess "yellow" basically means that you won't have any problems if you choose the right file system. I don't know enough about this to know whether that's a workable definition or not. Esn 06:19, 3 April 2011 (MEST)
- Okay, I was just wondering, since you marked nearly all the "problem" cards yellow. Some of these need to be tested further to confirm that the problem really is limited to non-FAT32 filesystems. -- Nyan 18:36, 3 April 2011 (MEST)
- Then that's something that can be mentioned in the "notes", if they haven't been fully tested; these colours are only approximations... I was just getting the ball rolling, really. Esn 05:11, 4 April 2011 (MEST)
- Okay, I was just wondering, since you marked nearly all the "problem" cards yellow. Some of these need to be tested further to confirm that the problem really is limited to non-FAT32 filesystems. -- Nyan 18:36, 3 April 2011 (MEST)
- Well, the way I did it is yellow means that cards work well with one format but not with another. For example, my Patriot 32GB card has worked well with FAT32 over the past few months, but apparently it doesn't work with ext2/3/4. More information should be added in the "notes" column. So I guess "yellow" basically means that you won't have any problems if you choose the right file system. I don't know enough about this to know whether that's a workable definition or not. Esn 06:19, 3 April 2011 (MEST)
Change title to "SD compatibility list"?
There are also "SDXC" and "SD" cards so I would change the title to the most generic one: SD. T4b 13:45, 21 April 2011 (MEST)
- I would prefer short titles for the articles as well. Longer titles can be faked by redirect stubs. --ABC 15:14, 21 April 2011 (MEST)
- Ok, moved and intro edited. Esn 01:35, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
Hidden notes
Why are a lot of notes hidden behind javascript? There are some browsers which doesn't support it and I hate to click everything just to read a few sentences, clicking there takes at least as long as reading it, rather more. T4b 21:47, 7 May 2011 (MEST)
- Well, the intention for this wiki is to make the pages look acceptable at a screen width of 800 pixels (as on the Pandora). This does mean that "notes" generally have to be kept pretty short, and hidden behind the HideableNotes template if they're not. Which browsers don't support javascript? I know Links2 doesn't, but that just means that you don't have to click on the note at all because it's all visible anyway. Esn 07:02, 8 May 2011 (MEST)
- Also, I think most people will just either scroll through the list as a whole, or read the notes for a particular card that they're thinking about buying. Esn 07:08, 8 May 2011 (MEST)
- Thought the browser which doesn't support it might display nothing at all, but just checked with links2, looks nice. When looking at this table I would like to read all the notes, not just some, because I want to know which classes/brands work better/worse in general, not a specific card. Looking for a specific card would work if this list contained hundreds of entries for the most bought sd cards, which it doesn't at the moment.T4b 12:51, 8 May 2011 (MEST)
- Yes, that's the point of the colour system, so you can tell at a glance how well a card works, or a brand of cards. Esn 12:25, 9 May 2011 (MEST)
- Thought the browser which doesn't support it might display nothing at all, but just checked with links2, looks nice. When looking at this table I would like to read all the notes, not just some, because I want to know which classes/brands work better/worse in general, not a specific card. Looking for a specific card would work if this list contained hundreds of entries for the most bought sd cards, which it doesn't at the moment.T4b 12:51, 8 May 2011 (MEST)
Add a column "Tested by"?
I think it might be a good idea to add a column who tested it, including a way to contact the tester if there are questions. So you could a) see how many tested a card and b) ask the ones who wrote something like "needs further testing" and never changed it if it now works or not and so on.T4b 15:22, 8 May 2011 (MEST)
- I think the current number of columns is already pushing it, to be honest - try viewing it at 800px wide. How about adding the source in the "Notes"? This is already done for some of them, where there's a link to the forum post where the test was made. You can also just add a name after some notes. i.e. "blahblahblah --T4b" (with link to your forum or wiki profile) Esn 12:23, 9 May 2011 (MEST)
- Well, on second thought, I don't know, I guess we could try it out. I did remove the Brand Name column, so that opens up a spot maybe (I removed it because the card names already all start with the brand name, so it was a bit redundant). Esn 12:30, 9 May 2011 (MEST)
NTFS
I can confirm that the Pandora can read and write SD cards and external HDs formatted to an NTFS file system. Seems to work more stable than FAT32 for me, even, at least for Audacity.[2] I have no idea how to do proper testing, though. Esn 05:58, 23 May 2011 (MEST)
How to contribute?
I just got a PNY 128GB SDXC class 10 UHS1 card and was wondering how I could test its compatibility and contribute to this. Rahi374 (talk) 10:10, 12 March 2014 (CET)