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ABC: please extend common.css, common.js

2011-04-23T19:15:56Z

please extend common.css, common.js

Esn: /* Just want to say */

2011-04-23T04:49:21Z

‎Just want to say

ABC: imges disabled

2011-04-22T12:49:14Z

imges disabled

Esn: /* Just want to say */ sorry, misspoke

2011-04-22T06:41:55Z

‎Just want to say: sorry, misspoke

Esn: /* Just want to say */

2011-04-22T06:39:51Z

‎Just want to say

Esn at 06:38, 22 April 2011

2011-04-22T06:38:10Z

ABC: /* Just want to say */ PNGs are evil ;)

2011-04-22T06:34:46Z

‎Just want to say: PNGs are evil ;)

ABC: /* Just want to say */ +1

2011-04-22T06:30:56Z

‎Just want to say: +1

Esn: spelling

2011-04-22T06:22:45Z

spelling

Esn at 06:22, 22 April 2011

2011-04-22T06:22:18Z

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 ::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 ::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 :::::I disabled images in [[:template:Ambox]] temporary to make them less anoying --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 14:49, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 ::::::Thanks. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 06:49, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

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	::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
	:::::I disabled images in [[:template:Ambox]] temporary to make them less anoying --[[User:ABC\|ABC]] 14:49, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		:::::I disabled images in [[:template:Ambox]] temporary to make them less anoying --[[User:ABC\|ABC]] 14:49, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
		+	::::::Thanks. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 06:49, 23 April 2011 (MEST)

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	::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
	::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
		+	:::::I disabled images in [[:template:Ambox]] temporary to make them less anoying --[[User:ABC\|ABC]] 14:49, 22 April 2011 (MEST)

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 :::::Well ...yes :) I think it's not a good style to alter things that way. So to me the wiki doesn't seem to be used that frequently that we need to hurry up and to polish everything. To me wiki means to be 'liquid', to be more a process than a single state (that might be just good or bad). BTW might you fix the SVG issue alone or don't you have an account to the wiki box? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 ::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
-::::::I have access to user/page rights and LocalSettings.php, but not to the server. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
+::::::I have access to user/page rights and to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], but not to LocalSettings.php or the server. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)

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	:::::Well ...yes :) I think it's not a good style to alter things that way. So to me the wiki doesn't seem to be used that frequently that we need to hurry up and to polish everything. To me wiki means to be 'liquid', to be more a process than a single state (that might be just good or bad). BTW might you fix the SVG issue alone or don't you have an account to the wiki box? --[[User:ABC\|ABC]] 08:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		:::::Well ...yes :) I think it's not a good style to alter things that way. So to me the wiki doesn't seem to be used that frequently that we need to hurry up and to polish everything. To me wiki means to be 'liquid', to be more a process than a single state (that might be just good or bad). BTW might you fix the SVG issue alone or don't you have an account to the wiki box? --[[User:ABC\|ABC]] 08:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
	::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		::::::I'm not sure whether I have access to it or not. Can you tell me how I might find out? [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:38, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
		+	::::::I have access to user/page rights and LocalSettings.php, but not to the server. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 08:39, 22 April 2011 (MEST)

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 ::::It has to be easy to edit - that's one of the most important criteria. Someone has to be willing to work on it. A single page is easier to edit than many different pages when you're trying to add several games at once, even if those different pages are later combined. So if you're going to compare different emulators, it might be better to have it all on one sortable list, with a column for each emulator. The discussion is moot for now anyway, because there's only one real compatibility list on the Wiki. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 :::::Ah ok, I see your point :) and yes there is a lot of truth. I had good experiences in offering wiki editing help directly to people in other communities, when I recognized that they would like to help but didn't knew how wikis work. But I guess this a wiki (or organisation in general?) at all. --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:30, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 ::Unstructured content is more valuable than contentless structure.
 :::Difficult to answer :/ If there is already content the most users are afraid to change them. In a unstructured form newbies wont read it.
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 ::::Okay. Although honestly, just using PNG files wouldn't be the end of the world, though I can see how it might be annoying for you to convert all of them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 :::::Well ...yes :) I think it's not a good style to alter things that way. So to me the wiki doesn't seem to be used that frequently that we need to hurry up and to polish everything. To me wiki means to be 'liquid', to be more a process than a single state (that might be just good or bad). BTW might you fix the SVG issue alone or don't you have an account to the wiki box? --[[User:ABC|ABC]] 08:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)

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	:::Thanks, but most of all it's a issue with the missing SVG support. ED is working on that and I don't want to stress him again. And I didn't want to spam the wiki with prerendered PNG files. So please be patient, it might be fixed within a few days :)		:::Thanks, but most of all it's a issue with the missing SVG support. ED is working on that and I don't want to stress him again. And I didn't want to spam the wiki with prerendered PNG files. So please be patient, it might be fixed within a few days :)
	::::Okay. Although honestly, just using PNG files wouldn't be the end of the world, though I can see how it might be annoying for you to convert all of them. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)		::::Okay. Although honestly, just using PNG files wouldn't be the end of the world, though I can see how it might be annoying for you to convert all of them. [[User:Esn\|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
		+	:::::Well ...yes :) I think it's not a good style to alter things that way. So to me the wiki doesn't seem to be used that frequently that we need to hurry up and to polish everything. To me wiki means to be 'liquid', to be more a process than a single state (that might be just good or bad). BTW might you fix the SVG issue alone or don't you have an account to the wiki box? --[[User:ABC\|ABC]] 08:34, 22 April 2011 (MEST)

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 ::Unstructured content is more valuable than contentless structure.
 :::Difficult to answer :/ If there is already content the most users are afraid to change them. In a unstructured form newbies wont read it.
-::::Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of structuring content once it is there to be structured, and there's a good likelihood that more will be added later on. That's why I try to think in advance about how an article or list might evolve, when deciding what the table should look like and so on. But when there's very little content, and you're not sure how things will evolve, too much structure from the very beginning can stifle the initiative of those who would have contributed. I would say more, but basically I think [http://imgur.com/bsqhR this Bizarro comic] says it better. :) It modest doses, structure provides encouragement, but if you go too far it will stifle it. Anyway, if you hang around here for a little while you'll probably get a better idea of the right balance. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:22, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
+::::Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of structuring content once it is there to be structured, and there's a good likelihood that more will be added later on. That's why I try to think in advance about how an article or list might evolve, when deciding what the table should look like and so on. But when there's very little content, and you're not sure how things will evolve, too much structure from the very beginning can stifle the initiative of those who would have contributed. I would say more, but basically I think [http://imgur.com/bsqhR this Bizarro comic] says it better. :) In modest doses, structure provides encouragement, but if you go too far it will stifle it. Anyway, if you hang around here for a little while you'll probably get a better idea of the right balance. :) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 08:22, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 ::So basically, I ask that before you copy things over from Wikipedia, you take a bit of time to think about if they're suitable for this particular project - if there's a need for them. Maybe ask people. Some of them are - and lots aren't. If ''you'' are willing to use them to add some content to the wiki, then that's the best of all. ;) [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:03, 22 April 2011 (MEST)
 :::Thanks, but most of all it's a issue with the missing SVG support. ED is working on that and I don't want to stress him again. And I didn't want to spam the wiki with prerendered PNG files. So please be patient, it might be fixed within a few days :)
 ::::Okay. Although honestly, just using PNG files wouldn't be the end of the world, though I can see how it might be annoying for you to convert all of them. [[User:Esn|Esn]] 07:52, 22 April 2011 (MEST)